Read below for an exclusive Q&A between Toni Kirkpatrick and WHITE SPACE author, Jennifer De Leon!
Pictured: author Jennifer De Leon
Toni Kirkpatrick (TK): When did you first start writing these essays and how did they evolve into the manuscript that would win the Juniper Prize for Creative Nonfiction?
Jennifer De Leon (JDL): The ‘oldest’ essay in the collection is one I wrote when I was nineteen years old and published in Ms. Magazine, shortly after I had interned there while in college, and the ‘youngest’ essay is one I wrote maybe three years ago. All told, I wrote and revised these essays over the last decade. The writing process continues to be mysterious and magical to me because I did not set out to write an essay collection; I really didn’t. Instead, I wrote one essay at a time. But I also worked on several drafts at a time, like many pots on a stove, I guess. I began submitting essays to contests and literary journals, and over the years, many of them were published. “The White Space” won the Fourth Genre Michael Steinberg Essay Prize in 2012. Winning this contest felt like winning a brand-new car at a state fair or something, in the sense that it was that unbelievable. I will always be grateful to Ryan Van Meter for selecting my essay. At the time, I was very much still getting my sea legs in the world of writing and publishing and so this win really inspired me to submit more and more. Eventually, I realized I had a collection. Maybe? So I showed the manuscript to trusted readers. Took out some pieces. Added a few. Showed it to my writing group once more. Then clicked submit.
TK: You grew up in Massachusetts, are a longtime instructor at GrubStreet, and now an Assistant Professor at Framingham State University. A story of yours was chosen as the One City, One Story for the Boston Book Festival. Now the University of Massachusetts has published your first book for adults, a book about your life. It looks like you and your home state are in a love-love relationship! Can you tell us about that relationship?
JDL: What a great question! Yes, I guess we are in a love-love relationship! I was born in Boston, raised in a suburb of the city, traveled around the world (Nigeria, France, Vietnam, Guatemala, and more) and even lived in California for a few years, all to land just ten minutes from my childhood home. Maybe it’s true, that saying about all roads leading home. Like many writers, I find inspiration from place and coming of age and family. I see many more stories and books set in Massachusetts, for sure!
TK: Your parents immigrated from Guatemala and in this book you write about returning there. How has your relationship with Guatemala changed since you were a child? What kind of a relationship would you like for your own children to have with Guatemala?
JDL: I was fascinated by Guatemala when I was younger—on a visceral level. I was nine years old the first time my parents and sisters and I visited the country. The smell of firewood burning, the mountain air, the tortillas cooked over an open fire, the endless cousins offering to braid my hair and teach me how to play avion along the dirt-paths or paved courtyards…it was all so vivid and sensory and remains so in my memory. I have returned to Guatemala many times, and each visit I get to know the country in a more profound way, but it will always be rooted in the senses.
As an adult, my relationship with Guatemala definitely evolved. When I was 28 years old, I moved to Quetzaltenango, in the Western Highlands, far from relatives living in the capital. I wanted to experience Guatemala on my own, and in my own way. I also wanted to write a novel and improve my Spanish and learn more about the country’s rich history. A few years later, my husband and I were married in Antigua Guatemala, the old cobblestone capital. We both want our young sons to embrace Guatemala in ways we have, but also in their own ways—to create their own relationships with this country.
TK: You signed my copy of WHITE SPACE “Take up space!” What does “taking up space” mean for you? Has this been something easy or difficult for you to do in your life, and in what ways do you think you have made strides to take up space?
JDL: Yes, to taking up space in life and on the page! For so long, I remained quiet in writing workshops or dutifully took notes, while thinking about ways I was going to quit the class. I’m serious. The doubt was real. Heavy as a cloak. So, I think the notion of taking up space –whether in a writing workshop or on the page—is related to whether or not we see ourselves and our stories as valuable, worthy. I write about this much more in my essay, “Work.” But, yes, taking up space is something I’ve had to learn to do, and to do so unapologetically.
TK: What advice do you have for Latinx writers who are struggling to find an agent or publish their work?
JDL: Do not take rejection personally. I wish I had known this, really internalized it, early on in my career. I could have saved myself from many moments of even more self-doubt, of paralysis, and fear. Keep it movin’ would be another piece of advice. Wasn’t there some statistic that showed how men receive rejections and that same day will send out more work? But women wait weeks, sometimes months to do so. As a woman of color, I know that many times in my life I have wrestled with insecurity, second-guessing, etc., but I also know that there are times when I have conquered the self-critic on my shoulder, hit ‘mute’ on that chatty station in my mind, and so there’s that, too.
TK: What are you currently writing? Do you find working in different genres to be more challenging or freeing?
I always have a couple essays cooking on the stove. Some on a low-burner, as I do now. One is about my time working at the GAP and how, among other things, a manager would mistakenly call me Maria. But I also recently signed a two-book contract with my amazing editor, Caitlyn Dlouhy, at Simon & Schuster, so I’m focused on revising my next Young Adult novel, Maya, which tells the story of a 16-year-old aspiring fashion designer in Guatemala who must flee the country with her mother after gangs threaten to take their lives, leaving them with an unimaginable choice to make at the Mexico/U.S. border. It is scheduled for publication in 2022. I would also love to write another essay collection, or perhaps a memoir. A YA memoir? Or all. ¿Por qué no?
Jennifer De Leon is author of the YA novel Don’t Ask Me Where I’m From (Simon & Schuster), editor of the anthology Wise Latinas: Writers on Higher Education (University of Nebraska Press), and most recently, the essay collection White Space: Essays on Culture, Race, & Writing (UMass Press). She is Assistant Professor of Creative Writing at Framingham State University and faculty member in the MFA in Creative Nonfiction program at Bay Path University. Connect with her @jdeleonwriter on Instagram and Twitter or at her website: www.jenniferdeleonauthor.com
Toni Kirkpatrick is a Senior Acquisitions Editor at Crooked Lane Books, acquiring crime and book club fiction. Originally from the Los Angeles area, she now lives in the Hudson Valley. You can find her on Twitter @tmargaritaplum.
